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It looks like the individual KYB struts are now called Excel-G and are black in color.
(The old name was GR-2 and were silver)

http://www.kyb.com/news/GR2-ExcelG.php

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Front struts: Excel-G 334335

front left strut assembly: Strut-Plus SR4039
front right strut assembly: Strut-Plus SR4038
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This KYB tech tip shows that KYB is aware of the suspension issues with these vans:
http://www.showmetheparts.com/BIN/documents/KYB/Chrysler MiniVan Front Strut ver2.pdf

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I am still leaning towards KYB when the time comes
 

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It looks like the individual KYB struts are now called Excel-G and are black in color.
(The old name was GR-2 and were silver)

http://www.kyb.com/news/GR2-ExcelG.php
Isn't this another way of saying they'll be made in China/India or who knows where now???

KYB said:
KYB is improving product availability by switching to a world-wide inventory. The (black) Excel-G is the color and name used around the globe. The entire world is becoming our warehouse.

The United States and Canada are the only countries that use the GR-2 name with the silver color. By switching to the Excel-G name with the black color the U.S. and Canada join the world-wide KYB manufacturing color.
 

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Hi Everyone I am looking at doing this strut job soon. The typical mount wear/ noise and at 130k i think i will do the whole strut assembly. Has anyone tried the Gabriel ready mounts for the 2005 Chrysler Town and country LX? The price on those is 191.99 each but it comes with a lifetime warranty at AutoZone so as long as I own the vehicle the next time I need to replace them it will be under warranty. I am also considering the Monroe matic/ Or the Monroe regular assembly from Amazon.com but worried about getting a defective part and having to have the hassel of sending it back. Please let me know your input.
Thanks Andy
 

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From RockAuto.com some options. Prices are per side


LEACREE Part # 501715729L $63.79

MONROE Part # 181572L Econo-Matic $90.79

PRO Part # 27210081 $106.89

MONROE Part # 171572R Quick-Strut $127.79

KYB Part # SR4038 Strut-Plus $166.79

MOOG Part # ST8561L $190.99

I used KYB on my 99 and liked them for the short time I had them before the wreck :(
 

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It seems everything is going to be made in China sooner or later.
Yep, until their wages get higher that some other nation, then the corps will move to that labor market.
 

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I would trust KYB's quality control.
It seems everything is going to be made in China sooner or later. Quality control is crucial.

Check out the "Know You Parts" campaign, they have some good videos.
http://www.aftermarketsuppliers.org/KYP
I'm very leery about outsourced quality control unless its proven otherwise and given that KYB just made some major corp changes (in October) we probably won't know for some length of time how this will effect their products.. (how much control do they really have if all the manufacturing and probably most testing is done elsewhere.. - the only control over quality would be to accept or reject a shipment of parts)

I could try to contact rockauto and see if they can give a straight answer as to the country of origin for the KYB shocks/assemblies (but highly doubt they'd know or give a straight answer)

Any opinions/experiences with Mopar ValueLine struts? (0SG81572)

LEACREE is pure crap IMHO have seen a set on a '98 and the springs are crap and struts aren't so great either.. (noise on bumps, lower ride, etc..)
 

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You can buy the struts, but then you have to take everything apart and you still need to buy the rest of the pieces to make it a nice new unit.
(Except for the springs, which could be tired)

For what it is worth,there is one Mopar valueline stock number for all of the models and 4 different part numbers for OEM (depending on what the van came with)

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Sorry, just realized that the link is broken in my original post. Here is a new link to the write-up and video on changing the struts on a 2001 Dodge Caravan Sport.

http://blog.jasonsherrill.com/post/...e-Caravan-Sport-Using-Monroe-Quick-Strut.aspx


I've had two sets of Monroe Sensa-Trac struts on my 2001 that is pushing near 180,000 miles and have had no complaints. I ordered my Quick Struts from Amazon for about $126 each and got a $125 mail-in rebate (I also replaced struts on my 2002 Ford Taurs, so I purchased six Quick Strut assemblies total).

Here's my write-up and video showing replacing the struts with Quick Strut assemblies on my 2001 Dodge Caravan Sport http://www.jasonsherrill.com/post/10556118663/how-to-change-struts-on-dodge-caravan-using-monroe

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So .. if you go to KYB's website, you will see they have a manufacturing plant in Indiana.
If you are concerned with COO, you should contact KYB directly.

KYB Manufacturing North America, Inc. (KMNA)
2625 North Morton
Franklin, IN 46131 U.S.A.

They also belong to all of the major aftermarket groups:
http://www.kyb.com/corporate/associations/

Bottom line, I would trust them.
They only manufacture shocks and struts, that is their business.
 

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When I replaced my struts the last time, I got used ones. I got a pair from a van with low mileage (50,000 or so) for around $30 each. It's been about a year since I put them on and they've been fine.
 

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Quick Strut Assembly

I encourage you to purchase a Quick strut (fully assembled, I believe quick strut might be a branded name for Monroe).

I've installed monroe as well as gabriel for myself and friends on this vehicle, the monroe has been better and I say this because the gabriel had to be replaced under warranty due to a mfg defect.

Also, mfg tend to run rebates in the spring and fall if you can wait a couple of months...it will save you some money...
 

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FWIW, I don't buy the (front) coil spring fatigue theory on these vans..
FYI, the '05 RS parts catalog lists 50 spring part numbers for these vans (for both 119" + 113" wb) and only 4 strut part #'s (two for each wheelbase - touring/standard suspension?)

The springs are the most critical suspension parts that determine the ride, and the one size fits all 'quick strut' springs will not come close to the OE springs (in both quality and longevity), at least not on better equipped vans... (so either way I'll need to keep the original springs if I want to preserve the original ride quality)

now the question is how much do the upper spring seats and spring isolators wear out on these? (the isolator should probably be replaced, but what about the upper seat?)
 

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When I rebuilt the struts on my 02 DGC SE, I replaced everything but the spring with OE - strut housing/seat, cartridge, bearing, isolators, camber bolts. I estimate I picked up about 1cm of new ride height from the fresh isolators.

-Jim
 

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The 50 part spring numbers are for the whole van.
In reality, the part numbers for the front is much smaller. (I looked them up a year ago)

Take a look at the Union spring catalog:

http://www.union-spring.com/catalog.asp?mfg=CHRYSLER TRUCK

one for the short wheelbase, 3 for the long wheelbase (depending on year and model)


The Union springs are also sold with a Husky label on them and a SC prefix added to the part number.

http://www.huskyspring.com/Coil-Spring-Set-Straight-Rate-Front_p_709.html
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With the push towards reducing weight on vehicles, the manufacturers have made the springs lighter.

They can and do break more frequently than the older vehicles which had a simpler suspension and thick coil springs w/shock absorbers.
 

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The only spring that I had break on a Caravan was on my old 84. I have never heard of a spring breaking on a Gen 4 Van.
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The coil spring breakage was a generalization, it can occur on any car.

It is usually easier to replace the struts as an assembly for convenience, the newer spring that comes with it is obviously a compromise.
For most everybody, that is good enough. You have to check your build sheet to see what the original springs were.
I did some research on it a while back, and the variations were not that much. Moog and Union spring only offer 3 numbers for the long wheelbase vans. (all rated at 140 lbs per inch)

The only spring that I had break on a Caravan was on my old 84. I have never heard of a spring breaking on a Gen 4 Van.
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Here are 2 threads for 4th gens w/broken springs
http://forum.chryslerminivan.net/showthread.php/14334-Broken-coil-spring!

http://forum.chryslerminivan.net/showthread.php/20140-Replaced-driver-side-strut-last

Like I have mentioned before, I have the tools to do the repairs myself but am leaning towards the complete struts.

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For those into coil springs, this is what I came up with a year ago.
There was no rhyme or reason to the springs that Chrysler put in the vans originally, but this is what Union springs shows in their catalog:

Town & Country
2004-07 swb 3.3 auto w/ac 20436
2001-03 lwb all auto w/ac 20616 All (Incl. AWD), Ex. LXI FWD, EX FWD, & Limited FWD
2001-03 lwb all auto w/ac 20614 LXI FWD, EX FWD, & Limited FWD
2004 lwb all auto w/ac 20616
2005 lwb all auto w/ac 20614
2006-07 lwb all auto w/ac 20614 All, Ex. Limited
2006-07 lwb all auto w/ac 20612 Limited

Grand Caravan
2001 3.3 SE FWD auto w/ac 20436
2001 3.3 Sport FWD auto w/ac 20616
2001 3.8 EX FWD auto w/ac 20614
2001 3.3 ES FWD auto w/ac 20614
2001 3.8 ES FWD auto w/ac 20616
2001 3.9 ALL AWD auto w/ac 20614
2002-04 ALL ALL auto w/ac 20616
2005-07 ALL ALL auto w/ac 20614

Union Spring # Moog #
20612 81128
20614 81126
20616 81152
20436 80972
 

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Cool, I have a Husky Spring center just down the road from me. Since the SCSU mascot is the Husky, I think the company might have originated here. :)
 

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OEM Springs

it doesn't surprise me one bit that aftermarket sells only three springs.. dealers probably don't have stock of all the original springs either..

but just for reference:
Code:
SPRING, Front Coil
Part#, Qty, Line, Body, Desc
04743764AA        1 K, Y 13, 53[ZSA]&1 K, Y 12, 52[ZSA]
04743765AA        1 K, Y 13, 53[ZSB]&1 K, Y 12, 52[ZSB]
04766763AA        1 K, Y 13, 53[ZPN]
04766715AA        1 K, Y 13, 53[ZRA]&1 K, Y 12, 52[ZRA]&1 K, Y 12, 52[ZPN]
04766784AA        1 K, Y 13, 53[ZDA]&1 K, Y 12, 52[ZDA]
04766785AA        1 K, Y 12, 52[ZDB]&1 K, Y 13, 53[ZDB]
05006703AA        1 K, Y 52, 12[ZNC]&1 K, Y 13, 53[ZNC]
05006704AA        1 K, Y 13, 53[ZND]&1 K, Y 12, 52[ZND]
05006705AA        1 K, Y 12, 52[ZNE]&1 K, Y 13, 53[ZNE]
05006706AA        1 K, Y 13, 53[ZNF]&1 K, Y 12, 52[ZNF]
05006707AA        1 K, Y 13, 53[ZNG]&1 K, Y 12, 52[ZNG]
05006708AA        1 K, Y 13, 53[ZNH]&1 K, Y 12, 52[ZNH]
05006709AA        1 K, Y 13, 53[ZNJ]&1 K, Y 12, 52[ZNJ]
05006710AA        1 Y, K 13, 53[ZNK]&1 K, Y 12, 52[ZNK]
05006711AA         1 K, Y 12, 52[ZNL]
05006712AA        1 K, Y 12, 52[ZNM]&1 K, Y 13, 53[ZNL]
05006713AA          K, Y12, 52[ZNN]&1 K, Y 13, 53[ZNN]
05006714AA        1 K, Y 13, 53[ZNP]&1 K, Y 12, 52[ZNP]
05006725AA        1 K, Y 13, 53[ZAE]
05006716AA        1 K, Y 13, 53[ZRB]&1 K, Y 12, 52[ZRB]
05006726AA        1 K, Y 13, 53[ZAF]&1 K, Y 52, 12[ZAF]&1 K, Y 12, 52[ZAE]
05006727AA        1 K, Y 13, 53[ZAG]&1 K, Y 12, 52[ZAG]
05006728AA        1 K, Y 12, 52[ZAH]&1 K, Y 13, 53[ZAH]
05006729AA        1 K, Y 13, 53[ZAJ]&1 K, Y 13, 53[ZAK]&1 K, Y 12, 52[ZAJ]
05006731AA        1 K, Y 13, 53[ZAL]&1 K, Y 12, 52[ZAL]
05006730AA        1 K, Y 12, 52[ZAK]
05006732AA        1 K, Y 12, 52[ZAM]&1 K, Y 13, 53[ZAM]
05006733AA        1 K, Y 13, 53[ZAN]&1 K, Y 12, 52[ZAN]
05006734AA        1 K, Y 13, 53[ZAP]&1 K, Y 12, 52[ZAP]
05006735AA        1 K, Y 12, 52[ZCA]&1 K, Y 13, 53[ZCA]
05006736AA        1 K, Y 13, 53[ZCB]&1 K, Y 12, 52[ZCB]
05006753AA        1 K, Y 12, 52[ZPC]&1 K, Y 13, 53[ZPC]
05006754AA        1 K, Y 13, 53[ZPD]&1 K, Y 12, 52[ZPD]
05006755AA        1 K, Y 12, 52[ZPE]&1 K, Y 13, 53[ZPE]
05006756AA        1 K, Y 13, 53[ZPF]&1 K, Y 52, 12[ZPF]
05006757AA        1 K, Y 12, 52[ZPG]&1 K, Y 13, 53[ZPG]
05006758AA        1 K, Y 13, 53[ZPH]&1 K, Y 12, 52[ZPH]
05006759AA        1 K, Y 12, 52[ZPJ]&1 K, Y 13, 53[ZPJ]
05006760AA        1 K, Y 13, 53[ZPK]&1 K, Y 12, 52[ZPK]
05006761AA        1 K, Y 13, 53[ZPL]&1 K, Y 12, 52[ZPL]
05006762AA        1 K, Y 13, 53[ZPM]&1 K, Y 12, 52[ZPM]
05006775AA        1 K, Y 13, 53[ZBE]&1 K, Y 12, 52[ZBE]
05006776AA        1 Y, K 13, 53[ZBF]&1 K, Y 12, 52[ZBF]
05006777AA        1 K, Y 13, 53[ZBG]&1 K, Y 12, 52[ZBG]
05006778AA        1 K, Y 13, 53[ZBH]&1 K, Y 12, 52[ZBH]
05006779AA        1 K, Y 13, 53[ZBJ]&1 K, Y 12, 52[ZBJ]
05006780AA        1 K, Y 13, 53[ZBK]&1 K, Y 12, 52[ZBK]
05006781AA        1 K, Y 13, 53[ZBL]&1 K, Y 12, 52[ZBL]
05006782AA        1 K, Y 13, 53[ZBM]&1 K, Y 52, 12[ZBM]
05006783AA        1 K, Y 12, 52[ZBN]&1 K, Y 13, 53[ZBN]    

Line: 
Y = CHRYSLER (FWD)
K = DODGE (FWD)

Body:
52 = 113 WB
53 = 119 WB

Desc:
[ZAA] Through[ ZZX]= Spring Group Types; Found on Individual Vehicle Sales Code Listing
 
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