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Color, not so bad, but an odor change isn't good. :)

Some oil changes color really quick, Mobil 1 being one of them I believe. Depends on the additives in the additive package for starters.
How does one tell if it's bad based on odor? My F150 oil starts to smell like a mixture of fuel and oil towards the end, which definitely isn't good but what else?
 

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It could be Magnefine promoting their product.
Some members here came across those on their vehicles, some actually installed them. I believe 06DGC installed one on his power steering.
The filters were discussed for some time many years back. If one had a new cooler, the filter could be installed on the other line.
Reportedly Ford issued a "Special Service Notice" to no longer use the filter because people weren't replacing them at 30K? as rrecommended, or something like that. They do have a bypass. It's all discussed on BITOG
 

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It could be Magnefine promoting their product.
Some members here came across those on their vehicles, some actually installed them. I believe 06DC installed one on his power steering.
The filters were discussed for some time many years back. If one had a new cooler, the filter could be installed on the other line.
Reportedly Ford issued a "Special Service Notice" to no longer use the filter because people weren't replacing them at 30K? as rrecommended, or something like that. They do have a bypass. It's all discussed on BITOG
And what make you think his power steering system will last longer?

It might cause cavitation which will lead to major repairs.

True hydraulic system filters should go on the high pressure lines, but those filters are expensive.
 

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I don't know, you will have to ask 06DGC.

Ford had some data that it saved their transmissions.
 

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How does one tell if it's bad based on odor? My F150 oil starts to smell like a mixture of fuel and oil towards the end, which definitely isn't good but what else?
Fuel odour isn't good for sure, reminds me of the newer CRV engines that have issues with fuel diluting the oil. I guess if it smells burnt then you have an issue.

Can't really tell by colour unless it's you have major issues like if it looks milky or like coffee and cream, then you probably got issues with coolant getting in there.
 

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Then what?

How come is not std. equipment? Not even optional equipment.
The questions you are asking are too difficult for me. Please ask me easier questions. :)

From BITOG: Ford thought they were a great filter and even marketed them under their Motorcraft label.
FORD's Magnefine Filter
Sept. 2009
Not breaking news, since that's been happening since the late '90s, but I have seen most of the Ford and Daimler Chrysler certification documents and tests that show it's one tough filter. Thake my word for it that they live up to every one of the claims made, and then some. The OE puts this stuff through some pretty stringent tests... some of them overkill. I'd love to post the tests, but I don't have permission to do so. If you keep you eye on upcoming issue of Diesel World Magazine and Four Wheeler magazine, you will see some interesting data on the Magnefine.
Fords TSB Against Installing a Magnefine
Jan. 2011
Note its a Special Service Message, not a TSB. OASIS SPECIAL SERVICE MESSAGE NUMBER: 21035 MESSAGE TITLE: AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION INLINE FLUID FILTER ELIMINATED AND NO LONGER REQUIRED AFTER INTERNAL TRANSMISSION REPAIR OR REPLACEMENT. APPLICABLE VEHICLES :
I don't know how Ford can now claim the inline filters they have been offering for more than a decade are suddenly "ineffective" or "unreliable" because their own qualification tests from the '90s and early 2000s, copies of which I have, say differently. The Magnefines passed some very stringent qualification tests with flying colors. Suddenly, they don't? I have "heard" that Ford switched to another vendor/brand of inline filter (there are similar types being made by others manufacturers, Filtran included). I wonder if these comments are being directed to those units? If the Magnefines have slipped in their quality, I'll want to know. "Vendor politics" sometimes plays a part in this too but I'll research this a little and report back.
Then again, Ford made the Pinto. So what do they know? :) Didn't they also lose a Court case about intermittent windshield wipers?
 

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How does one tell if it's bad based on odor? My F150 oil starts to smell like a mixture of fuel and oil towards the end, which definitely isn't good but what else?
The smell test. :)


If it smells like gear oil, you will know somebody screwed up. :)
 
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The questions you are asking are too difficult for me. Please ask me easier questions. :)

From BITOG: Ford thought they were a great filter and even marketed them under their Motorcraft label.
FORD's Magnefine Filter


Fords TSB Against Installing a Magnefine



Then again, Ford made the Pinto. So what do they know? :) Didn't they also lose a Court case about intermittent windshield wipers?
From your link:

...I broke in my Dad's old van with a magnifine and Amsoil synthetic trans fluid. I went 85K on on that fluid and tore apart the magnifine filter and it was very clean. I attribute much of that to the Amsoil fluid. But The Magnifine filter gets some credit.
Not very bright people there. After 85,000 miles, he tore apart the magnefine filter only to find out it was very clean. Then he attributed it to the use of scamsoil, or even to the filter itself.

  1. OE filter was doing it's job.
  2. Magnefine filter was clean because it was nothing to filter in the ATF
In short, magnefine filter was just a waste of resources.
 

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From your link:



Not very bright people there. After 85,000 miles, he tore apart the magnefine filter only to find out it was very clean. Then he attributed it to the use of scamsoil, or even to the filter itself.

  1. OE filter was doing it's job.
  2. Magnefine filter was clean because it was nothing to filter in the ATF
In short, magnefine filter was just a waste of resources.
Nope, that's not correct. Tearing the filter apart was a waste of resources.
 
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I think the idea, is that the transmission filter doesn't actually catch fine particles. A lot of material just becomes suspended in the fluid, sits on the bottom of the pan, or gets centerfuged to the outside of the torque converter.

Definitely not a 5 micron filter like we use on lift truck hydraulics and transmissions. I think engine oil filters are closer to 20 microns, and the 41TE filter is more like a mesh.
 

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Think every September is way too long for an oil change.

I like being proactive, so I change it every April instead. Better safe than sorry. :oops:
Lol. That's funny.
 
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Hey 06DGC, did you use a Magnefine filter on your 06's power steering line? Somebody back then did IIRC, I think it was you.
 

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Hey 06DGC, did you use a Magnefine filter on your 06's power steering line? Somebody back then did IIRC, I think it was you.
I definitely had one on my transmission return line. Can't recall if I ever went forward with the PS. I may have. I bet I would have posted about it. Maybe I'll have a look.
 

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I definitely had one on my transmission return line. Can't recall if I ever went forward with the PS. I may have. I bet I would have posted about it. Maybe I'll have a look.
Transmission return line, even better. Any comments on its performance?

I believe you had some transmission work done too and the transmission shop used Amsoil for the fill. How did that work out?
 

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Transmission return line, even better. Any comments on its performance?

I believe you had some transmission work done too and the transmission shop used Amsoil for the fill. How did that work out?

Unless he installed that filter over 20 years ago, a response like "it is working great" is not going to help, unless he dissect the filter and find it full of dirt, unlike this other guy:

...I broke in my Dad's old van with a magnifine and Amsoil synthetic trans fluid. I went 85K on on that fluid and tore apart the magnifine filter and it was very clean. I attribute much of that to the Amsoil fluid. But The Magnifine filter gets some credit.
 

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Unless he installed that filter over 20 years ago, a response like "it is working great" is not going to help, unless he dissect the filter and find it full of dirt, unlike this other guy:
How can you say it doesn't work then. No news is good news, isn't it? :)

WIX makes the same filter (or uses their name on the Magnefine filter), so they must be good. :)

Raybestos makes them too. Oh my!
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Even from rockauto.com:
Nice worm type clamps too. :)

In-Line Filter Kit; Plastic Body; 5/16" Double Barbs

ATP's Transmission filters are designed is to keep the life blood of your transmission (transmission fluid) clean. Every transmission will eventually accumulate debris from normal wear and tear. It is critical that the transmission fluid is kept clean so that the valve body and other vital components do not become clogged making them in-operable. By regularly replacing your transmission filter, you will be extending your transmissions life and reduce the possibility of costly repairs that could have been avoided.

Must be the best thing since sliced bread. Just bantering with you LEVY. To each his own, I'm not likely to purchase one, but that's not saying that I wouldn't..
 

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Changed the oil in the van today. From: The Chrysler Minivan Fan Club Forums
Changed the oil, not the filter, on the 2016 GC, using Valvoline Daily Protection 5W-30 (5 liters) and topped up with Formula Shell 5W-30. 13,010 km, 205 hours on the oil.

The FRAM TG11665 filter is rated for 24,000+ km, so was good for another oil change. I target for 10,000 km but this one got past me by 3,000 km.

For the previous oil change I used synthetic oil and waited for the oil reminder message to come on at over 15,000 km, changed at 15,467 km/247 hours.

I figure the less time one spends working around Chrysler's mickey mouse oil filter setup, the less chance for problems.
 

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How can you say it doesn't work then. No news is good news, isn't it? :)

WIX makes the same filter (or uses their name on the Magnefine filter), so they must be good. :)

Raybestos makes them too. Oh my!
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Even from rockauto.com:

In-Line Filter Kit; Plastic Body; 5/16" Double Barbs

ATP's Transmission filters are designed is to keep the life blood of your transmission (transmission fluid) clean. Every transmission will eventually accumulate debris from normal wear and tear. It is critical that the transmission fluid is kept clean so that the valve body and other vital components do not become clogged making them in-operable. By regularly replacing your transmission filter, you will be extending your transmissions life and reduce the possibility of costly repairs that could have been avoided.

Must be the best thing since sliced bread. Just bantering with you LEVY. To each his own, I'm not likely to purchase one, but that's not saying that I wouldn't..
I sold my 2006 with over 300,000 miles, strong original transmission.

So, in order to prove this filter is helping, his transmission should last a lot more than that, I would think.
 
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