why though?If you need to pick up your kids from school, a SUV would be the best option, ask them.
From your link:Death of the minivan? As Americans buy more SUVs, is the minivan headed for the junkyard?
As the minivan celebrates the 35th anniversary of its invention by Chrysler, the vehicle's future looks increasingly grim as SUVs boom.www.usatoday.com
A SWB minivan, with a Thule ski box, can be an excellent ski-mobile.
I wonder why:"Minivans have always had the stigma of the soccer mom image even though they’re incredibly practical," said Michelle Krebs, analyst at car-buying site Autotrader.
Should've sold that "insulation" to make up a few payments on the new one.Did some work on the e-brake. When removing the kick panel, I came across little white packets of insulation (powder)?? They were still there when I traded it. I don't think they were insulation.
In the generations of the Caravan/Voyager, I only owned 1 SWB. The only advantage was being able to park in a small car sized space. Otherwise, the roof rack was used all too often as there wasn't really any cargo space in the back. The rear seat nearly touched the rear hatch.Growing up, we started with a SWB and it was just fine, the rest were LWB. By the 4th gen I almost can't tell a SWB from a LWB sometimes, they had grown so much from the 1st gens. IIRC correctly a SWB 3rd/4th gen was within inches of a LWB 1st/2nd gen in wheelbase.
We never really sat in the 3rd row of most of our vans growing up. Usually it had a cover over it and was used as a seat for the dog. On our 93 shorty we usually had the seat pushed forward which made pretty good cargo room. On the 98 GC that replaced it there was a lot more room in the back. I think I can only remember one time where we had enough passengers to have anyone sit in the very back.In the generations of the Caravan/Voyager, I only owned 1 SWB. The only advantage was being able to park in a small car sized space. Otherwise, the roof rack was used all too often as there wasn't really any cargo space in the back. The rear seat nearly touched the rear hatch.
After watching a few YT vids of those SWB Caravans with the rear collision accidents and the troubling hatch popping open, for the safety of the kids, I moved on to a LWB. That little extra cargo space and distance of the rear seat away from the rear glass offered just a better safety cushion on rear end hits.
In a SWB, the rear accident would not only toss the glass into the rear passenger's heads, it would push the seat forward trapping their legs between the rows of seats.
In this LWB, the rear seat is untouched.
Yeah, I think I'd rather have a van than a truck for hauling stuff inside, etc. Trucks are so overpriced, just because so many people want one as a "status" symbol. Especially the fancy crew cab models. And you can get a van that is much more spacious inside as you mention, and also with a lot more goodies for way less than a pickup. Since I don't do offroading or anything like that I see no need for a truck. A van would meet my needs just fine.We still have our base 1996 Voyager 2.4L shortie bought new (newspaper special). My wife wanted a newer 2002 T&C 3.8L w/ everything (AWD, tow, power everything - mixed blessing) before her father visited from overseas and only $5500 in 2008, so grabbed that. Several people have left notes or stopped me when I am outside, saying "you don't need 2 minivans, sell it to me". One note was begging for a free car. I use the shortie more like a pickup. I removed the 3rd row mainly so I can haul my bike in the back, but also great for stopping at Home Depot on the way home. I had a pickup (1982 S-10 longbed), but found it cramped in the cabin and not fun hauling with stuff unprotected from rain and theft in the back, plus it collected tree debris. Not sure why people love pickups. I can haul more volume in the minivan w/ all seats out and it is protected. So far, I have hauled a piano, 6 cyl engine w/ transmission, 5 cyl diesel engine, sand & gravel, knee milling machine, 4x8 plywood and drywall (sits flat, can't quite close the rear hatch so rope it). The rear seats roll out easily. Of course I first line the floor w/ plastic (for leaks) then cardboard or plywood. Amazing how many gomers can't figure that out. One guy on a M-B forum posted that he borrowed his girlfriend's CUV to haul a used diesel engine and wondered how to clean the carpet of oil gunk on the carpets (she was mad). When I hauled sand in the pickup, I lined the bed w/ plastic first, so I could pull it up and get all the sand out, plus carpet below if gravel to not scratch the paint. Most pickup owners are less-smart.
If I tire of the shortie, CA will buy it for $1000 ($1500 if lower income), to supposedly mitigate pollution by retiring older vehicles. BTW, I recall that in the last days of the Chrysler minivan (~2005), they sold an upscale shortie, marketing it to older couples. That was before the CUV and basically the same concept. Indeed, that is what most CUV's are, other than their boxier look and missing the useful sliding door.